The scanner does not do justice to this threedimensional rose. The flower needs some adjustments, because it is not yet perfect. At the last petals the thread broke at a cluny leaf. You see, I'm not yet so good in doing clunies, but I assure you, they are not so difficult and it is a matter of exercising. I made a description for the cluny leaves, which is on the palmetto CD of 2007 and if you are interested, I can put it on the HBT site. But there are also plenty of descriptions in the internet.